tell me about venus square mars

topic posted Tue, April 8, 2008 - 4:25 PM by  qasdafil
my boyfriend now has a really tight square between his Venus 23 Leo and Mars 22 Scorpio.... can anyone tell me about their experience with the square?

im really wondering how its going to manifest, etc.

by the way, i have a 11 Scorpio Venus and 24 Cappy Mars. hrmm ... :D
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qasdafil
Boston
  • Re: tell me about venus square mars

    Tue, April 8, 2008 - 4:51 PM
    Hail, fellow Bostonian! :-)

    Beware his projections onto you of his Venus issues...he may see you as pitted against him when you aren't, and he may not believe you when you doth protest (esp. with Mars in Scorpio, who is sooooo very sure he is right about what he perceives...hard for him to take input in to the contrary sometimes)

    Men's tendency is to project their Venus onto their women, as women's tendency is to project their Mars onto their men. How else is his Venus aspected?

    The potential positive here is that sometimes sexual sparks can ignite between you from his inner frisson. Nice that your Marses are in sextile, he may see you as a comrade in arms. His Mars should at least understand your Venus, being in the same sign, though not conjunct.
    • Re: tell me about venus square mars

      Tue, April 8, 2008 - 5:47 PM
      I have a natal Venus square my natal Mars (between the early degrees of my Virgo Venus, and the final degrees of my Scorpio Mars. It's a 7 degree orb, to be exact.)

      In my experience, this would probably indicate an intensity in the passions, even if it's not always apparent, and more under the surface (probably moreso in my case, since both Virgo and Scorpio are not necessarily known to show their emotions straight up front.) And by the same token, if the person with this natal configuration seems to have a fairly stable temperament, the native will often be drawn into relationships, where many turbulent emotions, passions and issues are aroused.

      Also, in my particular case, the Venusian Virgo in me - who loves a certain sense of purity, modesty and clear-headedness - does often clash with the more animalistic, raging passions that are emphasized by my Scorpionic Mars. I feel, and often identify with, BOTH sides, and it's often a struggle to keep them all in check.

      It's also been said in a few places that the person with a natal configuration of Venus Square Mars would have to endure many stormy, passionately-charged, but often difficult relationships (particularly with members of the opposite sex), possibly as a result of the native's own turbulent and stormy emotions. I haven't had an extreme amount of love relationships in my life, but the few of them that I've had were, indeed, difficult, and had not-so-happy endings.

      And indeed, as a Mars in Scorpio native (who also has alot of Scorpio in my chart, and a heavy, dominant Pluto), I've always had trust issues from as far back as I can remember, and the issues go even deeper, when it comes to women in my life. It's often hard as hell, but I deal with it.

      I don't know if this actually applies to many who have the Venus Square Mars aspect, but that's my own 2 cents.
      • Re: tell me about venus square mars

        Thu, June 26, 2008 - 7:41 AM
        I also have Venus in Virgo, but square Mars in 28 Libra so right on my Scorpio Ascendent. My Mars has never played out in a Libra way, it's always full blown Scorpio for whatever reason. I'm passionate but only in extremes, meaning I am completely and undeniably attracted or there is no attraction whatsoever and the mere idea of sex disgusts me. Any kind of Libra romanticism isn't going to change that for me at all. It's there or it isn't. Venus in Virgo for me has translated into I need to be shown affection in practical ways and I have no use at all for flirting or flattery. As a matter of fact, I will instantly distrust anyone who goes down that path with me because I see them as shallow and insincere. The Venus in Virgo probably also contributes to the all or nothing thing in me because I will examine the other person for compatibility without any regard to emotion and if there is any incompatibility, it's over. My criteria is always crystal clear in my head and totally inflexible. So I would say that's how my Mars and Venus has played out. I don't become obsessive about my interests because I feel they will either work out or not and if not, I don't want them anyway. If anything, it takes me years to come to any "love" feeling for a person.

        Here's another interesting thing. My Venus in Virgo is in the 11th house and the only way I ever met men was through friends. Any man who approached me directly would find himself facing my back as I turned and walked away. I have no idea why I did that, but I did. I met my soul mate through a previous boyfriend and we had an entire group of friends in common. That was immediately hot and steamy and we couldn't live apart from almost the time we met, although we can do things separately without getting insecure about that. I have to say that I think our moons and the Pluto effect have a huge impact on that relationship as well as Saturn. We click on a lot of levels. I don't think the Venus and Mars effect would be the only one or even the strongest.

        Now oddly, my Mars is in his 7th house Libra and his is in my 7th House Taurus. That's supposed to cause power stuggles and ego issues, but it hasn't at all. I think that's mainly because we care about completely different things so what we want to control isn't in conflict with what the other person wants to control. He has to control every single detail of the house and I could care less where I live or what's in it. The fact that he brings order to it and takes care of it is very calming to me. That's his Saturn effect on me. It's the same effect that drives so many others crazy because they feel treated like a child. If I cared about the house, that would be an issue. I'm obsessively controlling about my writing and have to have silence and space. He's an Aquarian and 12th house sun so no issues there because he needs his space and he's internalized as well (I'm also 12 house Sun in an air sign).

        So I think you have to look at many things to figure that out. Your Venus square Mars could indicate this, but may not. I only had one passionately charged, stormy relationship and that was as a teenager. It wasn't short lived. It lasted five years. It wasn't turbulent and stormy emotions, it was egos clashing and constant, overwhelming sexual tension. I haven't had any short lived relationships.
        • Re: tell me about venus square mars

          Thu, June 26, 2008 - 5:35 PM
          >>I also have Venus in Virgo, but square Mars in 28 Libra

          Hi Zanne, this can't be a square...your Venus can either be semi-sextile to your Mars, or at the most, an out-of-sign sextile if your Venus is in the first couple degrees of Virgo. Virgo and Libra are side by side in the zodiac. To be in square interaspect, your Mars would either have to be in Gemini or Sag, or your Venus in Cancer or Capricorn.

          Re the 7th House Mars presence between you and your partner...I agree, that's not about fighting...his Mars falling in your 7th is a huge heart and sexual boost, especially. Your Mars in his 7th could make him uncomfortable if he is not fully accepting his own masculinity or if he is at odds with himself sexually.
          • Re: tell me about venus square mars

            Thu, June 26, 2008 - 6:55 PM
            You are right, Pea! Of course you knew that. I have to go by the Astrodienst grid because math makes my brain hurt and I think I looked at the wrong line. Venus is square Jupiter but semi-square Mars according to the chart. Is that right? Venus is 11 Virgo 15 in the 11th house and Mars is 28 Libra 43 in the 12th house. So I'm only partially this. Hmmm

            I don't think my Mars in his 7th house bothers him at all because his natal Scorpio is in the 7th and conjunct the 8th so he seeks intensity in relationships and sex. He probably just thinks my Mars is my Libra/Scorpio cusp and Scorpio rising. And his Venus is sextile my Jupiter so he feels more confident as a sexual being, and/or more attractive, as a result of the chemistry between us (at least according to our synastry report. Maybe that offsets any insecurity he would otherwise have or alleviates it. Plus, my Venus is trine his Mars which it says makes me enthralled with his sexuality and "body ego", and he is turned on by my loving nature.
      • Re: tell me about venus square mars

        Sun, June 29, 2008 - 11:56 PM
        Scasco, I wonder if your trust-issues regarding women could also be a lot about that Pluto-Moon conjunction of yours? The Moon is the ultimate feminie principle, and Pluto is, well... the Devil in disguise.
        • Re: tell me about venus square mars

          Mon, June 30, 2008 - 8:24 PM
          You know Mona, it just may be. That configuration does explain much (and in the few places where I've read stuff about the more challenging Moon-Pluto aspects, it emphasized those issues, tenfold.) There's a book I own regarding Pluto and it's effects on people during important transits, and for those who have it strongly configured natally, called "Healing Pluto Problems" by Donna Cunnigham (don't know if you've read it.) It's really insightful and revelatory, although, it's definitely *not* for the faint of heart. I got to read some of "The Book of Pluto" by Steven Forrest, but I haven't gotten around to buying it, nor have I finished reading it.
  • Re: tell me about venus square mars

    Wed, July 2, 2008 - 6:57 AM
    An excellent aspect, apart from a little problem with Scorpius which is 6 degrees wide, thus can not have 22nd degree. Venus can be almost square Mars in synastry even when in Pegasus or Scutum, but then Mars has to be rather slanted which is rare. Venus conjunct Mars in Cetus cais an excellent example in basic synastry.
    • Re: tell me about venus square mars

      Wed, July 2, 2008 - 7:07 AM
      Venus conjunct Mars in Cetus III to be precise, one of the three possibilities. This conjunction when square Venus or Mars or both is excellent like all Venus Mars squares, which, apart from jealousy, act even stronger than the conjunction, in any direction, even kinetic Cassini direction, tertiary Chaldean or Tertiary yearly return. Scanning for Venus and Mars positions is fun especially in special cases when Eris and Pluto are conjunct in Cetus II with Venus and Mars conjunct Cetus III, that is say 5 degrees conjunction. The square is favorable in relationship directed, e.g. basis primary direction of the relationship midpoint chart. The square is favorable with the Moon, even Mars Moon conjunction. Venus square Moon Mars will nevertheless add to bloody hormonal problems, usually unseen by the male.
  • Re: tell me about venus square mars

    Mon, August 4, 2008 - 7:12 AM
    The square is the most positive aspect in that it manifests whatever it involves. apart from little big jealousies, have no problem. |::::| The I Ching Aspectarian says you are able to enter the other world together.

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